{"id":289,"date":"2004-06-17T20:45:00","date_gmt":"2004-06-17T20:45:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/douglasgilliland.com\/theology\/2004\/06\/17\/methodist-group-in-trouble\/"},"modified":"2025-01-13T20:38:44","modified_gmt":"2025-01-13T20:38:44","slug":"methodist-group-in-trouble","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/douglasgilliland.com\/theology\/2004\/06\/17\/methodist-group-in-trouble\/","title":{"rendered":"Methodist Group in Trouble"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>A <a href=\"http:\/\/www.illinoisleader.com\/news\/newsview.asp?c=16560\">recent story<\/a> has the warned from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/le\/2001\/004\/38.117.html\">Lyle Schaller<\/a> warning his Northern Illinois Conference of the Methodist Church that they are headed to extinction.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Schaller&#8217;s words ought to be listened to because he is a well-known expert on church growth. But more importantly Schaller is knowledgeable on church <strong>decline<\/strong>. Schaller sees all of the signs of decline in his own denomination. He is reported to have given the denomination less than 12 years until it goes out of business. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The key issue, per Schaller, is one of leadership. The leadership of the Synod is &#8220;<strong>ideologically liberal and institutionally ultra conservative<\/strong>.&#8221; This is a double edged sword for any institution. Slow to adapt to change and yet ideologically liberal is a losing combination.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The second issue is one of <strong>increased competition<\/strong>. No longer can we rely on historical connections. As we have opened our doors to others so have others opened their doors. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Another issue that Schaller identifies is that the denomination has <strong>not kept up with technical innovation<\/strong>. The church has tended to curse the darkness rather than light a candle in the dark.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Schaller talks about how a newly graduated pastor who wanted to do a church plant and was told that he would have to take a circuit of small churches before he would be allowed to plant. He went to the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.covchurch.org\/cov\/\">Evangelical Covenant Church<\/a> and was allowed to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.covchurch.org\/cov\/cge\/planting.html\">plant<\/a> there. The church has over 8000 members in six years.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.dfw.com\/mld\/startelegram\/news\/state\/8991618.htm?1c\">This newspaper article<\/a> is about an Episcopalian church which has left the Episcopal church and is now seeking affiliation with the Evangelical Covenant Church.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The moral of the story isn&#8217;t &#8220;look how good we are doing compared to the Methodists&#8221;. Far from it. The moral of this story is: <strong><em>Take heed lest we too fall.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A recent story has the warned from Lyle Schaller warning his Northern Illinois Conference of the Methodist Church that they are headed to extinction. Schaller&#8217;s words ought to be listened to because he is a well-known expert on church growth. But more importantly Schaller is knowledgeable on church decline. Schaller sees all of the signs [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,13],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-289","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-history","category-reformed"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/douglasgilliland.com\/theology\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/289","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/douglasgilliland.com\/theology\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/douglasgilliland.com\/theology\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/douglasgilliland.com\/theology\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/douglasgilliland.com\/theology\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=289"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/douglasgilliland.com\/theology\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/289\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":703,"href":"https:\/\/douglasgilliland.com\/theology\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/289\/revisions\/703"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/douglasgilliland.com\/theology\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=289"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/douglasgilliland.com\/theology\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=289"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/douglasgilliland.com\/theology\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=289"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}